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I've just discovered that "Annúminas" has made it into "The Worst of the Worst LOTR Stories" comm on FF.Net. *g*

I'm so proud!

Of course, considering the fact that it's a Mpreg story, it's not surprising that some people would hate it on principle.

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Date: 2009-01-27 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowdaughter.livejournal.com
Oh, wow, so the counter is still active, although he/she/it deleted their forum, now? My condolences. :)

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Date: 2009-01-27 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
It's not the forum. It's the community. But it doesn't really bother me. At least s/he/it must have read the story (or the introduction, at the very least) to hate it that much. *g*

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowdaughter.livejournal.com
Awww! But you know, I always wondered why he/she/it never put my spin off fic in her community, if it is non-canon and slash s/he is after. I mean, you can hardly get more away friom canon than that. Still - not a peep. I wonder why that is?

As for your fic, dear Soledad, I really think you have more readers than only the Counter! At least, you deserve more! *HUGS tight*

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Do you have Mpreg in that story? Or a girl bamfing into Middle-earth? No? Well, then you're not worthy of the raised forefinger of doom, I'm afraid. *g*

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Date: 2009-01-27 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
Oh... for crying out loud.
That is the * only * reason one of your stories would get on one of their snotty little lists.

* Is FURIOUS*

I hate ff.net with a passion: the nastiness, the cliques, the insults and bitching on there, the slash haters, the canatics.

I won't read on there unless a story I like is posted nowhere else at all. It's a sewer of a site and attracts the ghastly little toads who congregate with other to snark and spork and bully. Even if my stuff was not adult, I would sooner stick pins in my eyes than post there. I feel like taking a shower even after looking.
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Date: 2009-01-27 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Heh! It's not FF.Net alone. The story holds the proud record of being the quickest refusal from HASA, too. Twenty minutes after it had been recced, it already had the necessary numbers of refusal. ;)

Yeah, FF.Net isn't a pleasant place. I still post there, though, because it's the largest multifandom site, and I write in so many fandoms that it's about the only archive I can put up the majority of my stuff (save the adult ones and those with the forbidden quotes, hehehe).

Besides, many of my current online friends I met on FF.Net. And before most of them had fallen out of the fandom - or came to resent my writing, at the least - I used to get a lot of support over there. All those small, specified archives have added a great deal to the fracturing of the Tolkien fandom, you know. Even the fact that FF.Net now has a different page for Silmfics caused me to lose a lot of readers. Those who would take a look at my LOTR stuff earlier, just because it was there, won't come over from the Silmarillion page to do so now...

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Date: 2009-01-27 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
I only post here ( as back-up) and LOTR fanfiction.com, because that takes adult and has an admin who discourages flaming, sporking and bullying. It's a friendly site, although much smaller, but it has off-topic stories too ( one of my f-list posts V for Vendetta and The Cell fics there. Of course LOTR is the main fandom. )

I can't respect a site whose admin allow bullying and flaming, and create a place where these ugly-minded people can congregate and mock and sneer, yet won't allow Adult? If there was more Adult allowed, I think they would get a broader range of people reading the stories, who would have chance to line up against slash-haters. As it is, people like me who like well written slash/erotica read it elsewhere, review it elsewhere and discuss it elsewhere.

Twice on ff.net I wandered into forums and got caught in the crossfire of two different groups who had running feuds going, and it didn't leave a nice taste in my mouth, especially when I took a mod up on the offer to post recommended fics. I looked them up, linked them, found passages to quote, wrote why I liked it, and they were deleted because the mod didn't like the authors. ( Aislynn was one of those deleted ) - what the heck has that got to do with the quality of a story? There are also some terribly patronizing and smug people who believe they are the sole arbiters of good Tolkien fanfic, who actually write very dry and unexciting stories, but have massively inflated ego's. Sometimes I cannot believe how cocksure they are of themselves and how condescending to other people.

I post on Aislynn's forum sometimes, as I follow her story and she is a really lovely person, and I like to show I support people I read in public, and others who post on her forum are very decent too, but the rest of the place appalls me. I much prefer LJ as I can choose whom I talk to in a civilized atmosphere.

Heh! It's not FF.Net alone. The story holds the proud record of being the quickest refusal from HASA, too. Twenty minutes after it had been recced, it already had the necessary numbers of refusal. ;)

HASA is very elitist. Much as I hate ff.com, I am not keen on sites who set up a system of judging stories and have the power to refuse them. That is a snobbish attitude which chafes me. What's wrong with just letting people upload and then giving concrit if you feel it is justified?

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Date: 2009-01-27 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I like the policy of SoA - they accept a writer, not a story, and once you're accepted, you can post your stories, as long as they're within the site's guidelines. Unfortunately, they don't accept slash, adult stuff or crossovers, although the latter is still a mystery to me.

I mean, I can understand that they don't want "Harry Potter the Tenth Walker" fics in the archive - I wouldn't want those, either - but once they have an established writer, they can be reasonably sure that s/he wouldn't write such tripe, right?

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Date: 2009-01-28 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
but once they have an established writer, they can be reasonably sure that s/he wouldn't write such tripe, right?

Yes, my view is a good writer cannot write a bad story, whatever it is. I am reading a tenth walker-self insert one of my f-list wrote just as an experiment, to see if she could do it. I love it. She's a fantastic writer and can turn an over-worked and infamous plot-line into something readable and believable. So, yes, I would trust a good writer not to suddenly produce rubbish.

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Date: 2009-02-01 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhun-dweller.livejournal.com
Are you suggesting I submit my "Harry Sue's Adventures at Hogwart" someplace besides SoA??? [weeps rilly rilly rilly big tears...]

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Date: 2009-02-02 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
*hands over Kleenex*

There, there. You will have to find another home for your grand epic, I'm afraid.

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowdaughter.livejournal.com
Twenty minutes after it had been recced, it already had the necessary numbers of refusal. ;)

Sorry for busting in here in this conversation, but... that is just silly! When did this happen? I know that they were pretty exclusive, some years ago, but *that*... *faceplam*

Of course, by now, HASA is not as exclusive, anymore; every story posted there will now at least be visible to the public. But to refuse Annuminas that quickly - I mean, *I* have posted *Mael-Gul* there, and I have some request for information about updates. Granted, it has no m-preg, and I have not yet dared to enter it for reviews, but well...

*Headmeetsdesk*

BTW: HUGS to Lethe!

I post on Aislynn's forum sometimes, as I follow her story and she is a really lovely person, and I like to show I support people I read in public, and others who post on her forum are very decent too

Awwww! Thank you! And you are very, very welcome, there. :)

I confess, I have fallen to the forum mania, a bit, last year. I need to spend more time again on the reading and reviewing of stories. However, FFN has always been one of the sites where I did most of my reviews. Quite a few authors I like still post there, and I do like the story update alert and the author alert feature. And as Soledad said, it is the one archive that allows one to post all the stories on has in many different fandoms at one place (except for NC-17, and script format, and, and , and). However, it has been sadly prone to drama and self-proclaimed fandom-police groups. during that last year. :(
Edited Date: 2009-01-27 09:46 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
No worries. This is an open conversation.

It happened in the early years of HASA, the first or second one, I no longer remember. I left the archive after the Big Fallout (TM) between Silmficcers and Anglachel, taking all my stuff with me, and never returned. It was a very ugly thing that hammered a wedge into the fandom for good, I'm afraid.

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowdaughter.livejournal.com
I left the archive after the Big Fallout (TM) between Silmficcers and Anglachel, taking all my stuff with me, and never returned. It was a very ugly thing that hammered a wedge into the fandom for good, I'm afraid.

I see I have much to learn, yet, about fandom history. At that time, I was innocently hanging out on FFN and some other archives and had no idea of the Drama that was taking place elsewhere. Seems that there is no place anywhere that is safe from that, though. :(

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Date: 2009-01-27 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
You haven't missed a thing. As I said, it was very unpleasant.

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Date: 2009-01-28 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
No NC17 - nuff sed. 95% of what I read is well written mature, long, plotty NC17 slash ( like yours, Aislynn ). Seems they like to be nannies, but nannies which allow and encourage bullies.

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Date: 2009-01-27 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Dammit, I want to be listed in that comm! *sulks!*

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Date: 2009-01-27 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Perhaps if you let the mod know that you're my friend? ;)

In a fandom where I was attacked because of a) being a dirty slasher and b) being a narrow-minded homophobe - and I'm not kidding you here! - practically everything is possible.

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Date: 2009-01-27 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wild-iris.livejournal.com
Yay, congratulations!

That list is enormous: almost 1500 stories! I glanced at the first couple of pages; most of the summaries are like, 'girl falls into Middle-earth; this is my first fic so please be nice', which makes 'Annuminas' seem an odd choice.

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Date: 2009-01-27 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Not really. It is Mpreg, after all, and we all know that every self-respecting fan (Tolkien or otherwise) ought to hate Mpreg. Look how fast the story was rejected by HASA!

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Date: 2009-01-27 11:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] makamu
Don't worry about it. :) I suspect they picked it because it's Mpreg and we all know that Mpreg has to be bad /turns nasty generalizations off. In case it helps, I think highly of that fic because it is realistically rendered :)

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Date: 2009-01-27 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I'm not worried at all. I won't let narrow-minded idiots tell me what I'm allowed to write and what not. Sie können mich mal, to use the adequate German expression.

Personally, I like Annúminas a lot (well, not the grammar part of it, it seriously needs a beta). It was enormous fun to write, and besides, I do like Mpreg, as long as it's well-founded. I'll have to find that Mpreg medical illustration thingy I have somewhere on my HD.

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Date: 2009-01-28 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lissas-elves.livejournal.com
I like Annúminas. Mpreg is usually not my thing, but you wrote that story so convincingly that it was impossible NOT to like it. :-)

The people who put it in that comm on FFN cannot possible have read it. Weird!

Interesting stuff you tell about HASA; seems it was a scary place earlier?

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Date: 2009-01-28 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Thanks.:)
In a way, the entire fandom is scary...

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Date: 2009-01-28 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lissas-elves.livejournal.com
In a way, the entire fandom is scary...

lol - well, I suppose you could say that. I've heard a lot of stuff, but hasn't really been witness (nor subjected to) any of it, thank goodness!

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Date: 2009-01-28 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I envy you for that so much.

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Date: 2009-02-01 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhun-dweller.livejournal.com
Congratulations! Let's break out some Lindtir and celebrate!

It's so good to know there are still idiots somewhere who cannot appreciate a well-written love story when they read it. It leaves room for improvement in the fandom. [Pardon the bitter sarcasm, but I grow weary of self-appointed defenders of whatever they think they're defending. The Back button is always clearly marked... Argh.]

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Date: 2009-02-02 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I'm all for celebrating.

Idiocy is one of the very few universal constants of the universe - and, as you know, to find the Back button would actually require two brain cells firing off at the same time. With a brain capacity that's barely enough to regulate one's vegetative system, that's not an easy feat to perform.
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