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So, which are the fandoms you've given up on because the creators took a turn you could not agree with?

Mine are:

- Angel, starting around the end of Season 2, when Joss brought in that stupid demon universe storyline. I stopped watching the show somewhere mid-season 3.

- Buffy, after Season 5, although I was seriously tempted to give up on it as soon as at the beginning of Season 4, when Buffy suddenly became an idiot. The last straw for me was the appearance of Dawn. I forced myself to watch the show to its bitter end, but honestly, I regretted having done so.

Andromeda, after mid-season 2, when Gold Trance came into the picture and Kevin Sorbo turned the show into Hercules in Space. I kept watching till the end of Season 4, but it just got worse and wordse. I never bothered with Season 5.

SG - Atlantis, after the Season 3 episode "Sateda". I liked that one. I bought Season 3 on DVD, but I seriously doubt that I would even bother to watch Season 4 and whatever might yet come on German TV.

Stargate SG-1. Stopped watching after Season 8, when O'Neill left and the annoying new guy entered the picture. The whole thing stopped being a slightly self-ironic sci-fi show and turned into some sort of stupid science fantasy. Oh, and I do hate Vala Mal Doran.

Earth: Final Conflict, after they killed off Boone, to get in the young Marty Stu, castrated Da'an and made Zo'or a stupid and incompetent villain. Watched sporadically till the end of Season 4, though, then stopped.

Queer As Folk, at the moment when Brian hit Michael, just because Michael said something "mean" about that annoying little slut, Justin. As if a piece of blond boy a§§ would be more important than a deep friendship of 14 years. Again, I watched the show to the bitter end and was shocked by the increasing badness of it.

Enterprise. I gave the show a chance, just because it was Star Trek. I gave up somewhere during the very first season. I even deleted the recorded episodes from the videotapes, it was so very bad.

These are just the fandoms in which I've invested much time and energy, and in which I also write. I've given up many, many more. *g*

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Date: 2008-08-13 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindahoyland.livejournal.com
Enterprise made me give up on Star Trek.It was dreadful!

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Date: 2008-08-13 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Oh, but Enterprise isn't Star Trek at all. That's just a big lie that Bermaga like to spread to make bigger bugs. Haven't you got the Sekrit Trekkie Communiqué about that fact?

Serously, B&B have started to destroy Trek during Voyager already, with having Janeway beat the Borg on a weekly basis with one hand cuffed to the reiling. Not to mention the death of decent characterization when the Maquis and the Fleets became best buddies in the third week into the show already...

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Date: 2008-08-13 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindahoyland.livejournal.com
I liked Voyager despite its flaws as the characters were compelling,though it went downhill when Kes left.Enterprise seemed more like a team of social workers than space explorers.The characters were deadly dull and I'd not have cared if the Borg or Monster of the week devoured the whole dreary lot!

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Date: 2008-08-14 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I had so high hopes for Voyager at first, because hello? Maquis characters? A female captain? Brand new aliens? A good source for conflict within the crew? What was there not to like?

But then, as you said yourself, they assassinated and then written out Kes' character (I so hated the blonde bimbo she became for the last couple of episodes), brought in Seven of Nine - which would have been an interesting idea, had they not made her the manifestation of BErmaga's wet dreams, and they turned Janeway in a bitch in Equinox... she was going that way for a while, but they completely killed the character for me in that episode.

I mostly watched it for Chakotay anyway. He was so a promising character... and so shamefully wasted.

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Date: 2008-08-13 09:31 pm (UTC)
artemis10002000: Don't drink water... fish have sex in it (Default)
From: [personal profile] artemis10002000
We have three lost fandoms in common.

Stargate SG-1 - When the Tok'ra were villainized and the Jaffa Nation became a big deal, I was annoyed, when O'Neill left SG-1 and the team was switched around, I lost most of my interest (never liked O'Neill all that much, but he pretty much WAS SG-1 for me), when the Goa'uld were defeated all of a sudden to be replaced with the lame Ori and Cameron-the-space-hunk, I stopped watching. In my opinion, they should have had the guts to quit with the final defeat of the Goa'uld. If the authors were really so fond of the Ori, they should've made a new spin-off for the Ori arc.

Stargate: Atlantis - I loved the first season, but when they suddenly got a regular space taxi back to earth, I lost interest. Watched some episodes of season 2, but didn't really care anymore.

Andromeda - I did watch a couple of episodes from season 5, but it just didn't strike me as Andromeda anymore and so I stopped watching sometime mid-season.

Buffy and Angel, I haven't given up on them, but I can't be bothered to watch them late at night, either, so I quit watching at some point (after Buffy6/Angel4, I think). I'll never be able to forgive Whedon for turning Spike into such a wuss, though.

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Date: 2008-08-13 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Mucho agreed about everything, especially about Spike. I write him as reunited with Angel and still being gleefully evil... well, within reasonable boundaries.

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Date: 2008-08-14 10:20 am (UTC)
artemis10002000: Don't drink water... fish have sex in it (Kana)
From: [personal profile] artemis10002000
Yeah, it's so sad what they did with Spike. I really liked evil!Spike and I liked semievil! Spike, too. But pining-away-after-Buffy-like-a-lost-puppy!Spike? Nay. And I actually like the Buffy/Spike pairing. Or at least I did, until Buffy treated Spike like crap and he just took it without complaint.

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Date: 2008-08-14 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Yes, the interestng element in their relationship was that after Buffy's return from death Spike was the only one who actually knew what she had lost.

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Date: 2008-08-15 10:26 am (UTC)
artemis10002000: Don't drink water... fish have sex in it (Default)
From: [personal profile] artemis10002000
Yeah, that's very interesting about their relationship.

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Date: 2008-08-13 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajmckay.livejournal.com
The only SG-1 I will watch is with Cameron and only once in a great while will I watch an episode. Overall I never cared for the show, but I was a huge Ben Browder fan (and I still am) and Farscape was my favorite show ever. I love Claudia Black as well-I could care less about anything else dealing with the show.

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Date: 2008-08-13 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Funny. I gave Farscape a try but never made it beyond episode 3, I found all those puppets so stupid and the whole thing boring. Well, everyone his or her own, I think. I loved Stargate. A friend of mine, though, was absolutely nuts about Farscape; his wife meant it was almost a reason for divorcing him; that and Pokémon, she said. OTOH, she is a great Kevin Sorbo fangirl, and said friend is terribly jealous... *g*

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Date: 2008-08-13 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajmckay.livejournal.com
I don't like my sci-fi in any type of suits...military suits...nothing too structured. I love what Jim Henson Studios did for Farscape and the show never dragged during any of the seasons. It always had quirky moments and the 'wtf' factor going for it. There was so many social messages in the show that went beyond what Star Trek, Andromeda, or Stargate had to offer...and the aliens actually looked like aliens half the time instead of a human in a suit with a bunch of make-up dabbed on. I think I just like my sci-fi gritty and human, not structured and militant. =D

Edit: Sorry, this comment is me just trying to explain my love of the show, not that I'm trying to convert or put down other sci-fi shows...I know different tastes for different folks and all that.
Edited Date: 2008-08-13 11:09 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-08-14 10:23 am (UTC)
artemis10002000: Don't drink water... fish have sex in it (Default)
From: [personal profile] artemis10002000
Hi fellow Farscape fan *waves* Just wanted to say that I love how you described what you liked about Farscape, because that's pretty much what I liked about the show, too. Only I wouldn't have been able to word it so nicely. :)

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Date: 2008-08-14 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Oh, don't worry, I'm not bothered by other people liking shows that I hate. I do have a weird taste anyway.

It's all a matter of taste, isn't it? I always give a chance *every* sci-fi show that flatters over the TV screen, because I'm a geek, but I prefer the Trek-like ones.

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Date: 2008-08-14 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Added, because I forgot to mention: what I liked in Andromeda was that the aliens - like the Than or the Perseid - were really aliens. And the creators came up with very detailed backgrounds for all those races, including their reproductive methods - finally we got away from the one male and one female cliché that most sci-fi shows gave their supposedly alien cultures.

Also, the structured and militant part mostly existed in Captain Hunt's mind, who was 300 years behind reality, after all. The crew of the Maru were a bunch of scavengers who didn't really identify with his lofty ideas... at least not in the first season, before Kevin Sorbo took over.

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Date: 2008-08-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathsheadx.livejournal.com
bad sci-fi and when sci-fi jumps the shark is why most people write fan fiction.

stargate is weird as i'm a casual watcher. but oneill and teal'c and in later seasons cam and vala(farscape fan here)are the reasons i watched the what i did watch. i detest the mary sue that carter is, there is no way she should get away with what she does the only reason i watch what little i have now watched of stargate atlantis is because there is nothing else to watch on uk tv and ronan can be badass.

andromeda i basicaly gave up when i knew tyr was on the way out because of sorbo.

i gave up on xena because as much as i love lesbians on tv it became all about xena and gabrielles love.

i started to give up on buffy around season 4 but well and truelly gave up on it in season 6 i never even made it through a whole episode of season seven, unlike angel which i watched the last episode all the way through(an episode that in my opinion redeemed the mess the series became.

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Date: 2008-08-20 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
*bad sci-fi and when sci-fi jumps the shark is why most people write fan fiction.*

Heh! How very true!
Welcome back, BTW! You've been gone for a long time!

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Date: 2008-08-21 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathsheadx.livejournal.com
good to be back, had some family issues for a while but they're sorted
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