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I've just asked for Innocence being removed from The Library of Moria. *sighs*


The webmistress has decided to accept and actively support RPS with the LOTR actors. As I absolutely detest RPS and consider it a violation of the privacy of real people, I can't allow my story to be posted on the same archive.

Call me narrow-minded if you want, but my principles mean a great deal to me. I've left HASA on principle a year and a half ago (well, almost), which step rendered me to a barely-known backyard author. Leaving a slash archive where only one of my stories was posted anyway isn't such a big deal for me.

Still, the whole thing saddens me somehow. I don't know why.

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Date: 2004-01-10 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larian.livejournal.com
I just saw that too, at LoM...I wonder what prompted their decision?

I wonder if part of it was due to the fact that the closer than brothers archive is no longer updated/archived...

And as far as principles...you have to live with yourself...

You're on stories of Arda, aren't you?

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Date: 2004-01-10 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Yes, I am. Of coruse, The Stories of Arda doesn't accept anything with as much as a hint of m/m in it, which automatically excludes about 80 per cent of my fics, but that's life.

As for principles, well, they aren't always comfortable, but... *shrugs* they are an important part of what I am - or who I am - so for better or worse, I'm stuck with them.

Not that anybody would cry after me anyway. Nobody ever missed my stuff when I left HASA, either.

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Date: 2004-01-10 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
I don't blame you for leaving Library of Moria as I agree with you on the RPS thing. I sort of didn't twig till now that you left HASA until now, and I'm curious as to what happened, if you want to tell. If not, I think you're decision to leave Library of Moria is right.

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Date: 2004-01-10 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I'll tell you about it privately, all right?

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Date: 2004-01-10 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
Only if you want. I'm just curious what HASA did to you. My email is jilba25@hotmail.com if you want to say, I'd hate to leave HASA but if they've done something to you, I might have to.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
No need for you to repeat my mistake. I sent you an email already, as I had my addie from earlier. It wasn't such a big deal anyway, and I can only blame my stubborn pride for the outcome.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Ouch, that was *your* addie, of course. At 0.21 in the night, my attention span is somewhat lacking.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
Oh, Ok. I know some people at HA really upset a few writers a little while ago, and at this point I'm assuming that's the reason. I'll read your email before I decide, but I'm less than happy with HA for a number of reasons.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Well, this was more than a year ago, so it has to be a different issue. Hopefully, my mail won't be eaten by the Balrog, as it usually happens when it's an important one.

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Date: 2004-01-10 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
I don't have anything yet, so maybe that email-eating Balrog did get your email.

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Date: 2004-01-11 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I'll try to write you again, through the Edhellond Members addie list. Maybe it'll work that way. It usually does.

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Date: 2004-01-11 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
Ok, I'll let you know when I get the email, OK

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Date: 2004-01-11 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jilba.livejournal.com
I have your email thanks, and all I'll say here is that it is the reason I suspected. I'll say more privately.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] circestale.livejournal.com
You could always archive at melethryn.net. It's an elf slash archive. Fairly well-run and good amount of traffic.

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larian.livejournal.com
Heh. I was going to suggest that, though I was way too late...*grin*

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Date: 2004-01-10 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Thanks for the suggestion, ladies. I was thinking of that myself. :)

Actually, I'd stuck with the new Freedom of Speech archive, but for some reason my accent is screwed up, and the site won't let me upload. Hopefully the site gurus can iron the thing out, soon.

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Date: 2004-01-10 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithilwen.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear the Library of Moria has decided to accept RPS, and I think you're making the right decision.

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Date: 2004-01-11 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
According to the webmistress, I'm not the only one who asked for their stuff to be removed.

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Date: 2004-01-11 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithilwen.livejournal.com
Maybe if enough people make that request, the webmistress will reconsider this decision.

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Date: 2004-01-11 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rcfinch.livejournal.com
Thanks for mentioning this! I seldom visit the Library of Moria these days, and I wouldn't have discovered it on my own. As I hate RPS, I've requested them to remove Under the Curse.

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Date: 2004-01-11 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
I'm rarely over there, myself. I was just thinking of finally updating Innocence, as only the first three or so chapters were posted, when I saw the horrors.

I think many of the serious authors will pull their stuff and LoM will sink into the gutter completely. Too bad for a popular archive, but it's their decision.

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Date: 2004-01-11 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wild-iris.livejournal.com
I was disappointed by LoM's decision, too; it's such a varied and enthusiastic archive, and it seems a shame to muddy people's enjoyment with issues about RPS. It shows courage for you to remove your stories. I hope you're able to find a more receptive home for 'Innocence' - the recommendation of Melethryn.net sounds good.

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Date: 2004-01-11 10:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] makamu
I did not understand why you felt the need to pull your fics of LoM. I for my part read RPS ( please forgive me!), but I don't approve of LoM's decision either. But, pardon me for asking, why don't you just update your site and achieve it there?

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Date: 2004-01-11 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Forgive you? What for? We all have different tastes. I detest RPS, other people - among them my good friends - like them. That won't create any tension between us, or so I hope. I simply don't read the stuff, they do. That's all.

But since RPS is not my taste, I don't want to be associated with it by having my writings on the same archive. As for my site, well, I just don't find the time to update it. That's why I'm always months behind ff.net updates. :(

BTW, thanks for your review. I tried to write you privately, but my mail was returned. Ever since Hotmail made these shiny new changes, thigs keep being wacky.

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Date: 2004-01-11 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhun-dweller.livejournal.com
Ah, my friend, I'm sorry to hear you have to pull out of LoM. I haven't been out to archives much these past few months, so I'd missed that change.

I shall have to drop them a note, too. I'm with you on the RPS stuff - even having read something on Sir Ian McKellan's site saying it didn't bother him because, since the authors don't know him, it's a fictitious as writing about the characters he plays (I'm paraphrasing from a feeble memory, but that was the gist I took from his comments), I still just feel... uneasy about it. I wouldn't want someone writing stories or making art that uses my name and/or likeness without my permission, especially if I'm portrayed as doing things I'd never do in RL.

I admit total failure to comprehend the appeal of RPS. My attraction is the the character someone plays - s/he could be a total bore in RL, for all I know! (Sean Bean without Boromir's hair and clothing would never have caught my eye, for example.) So why not just make up some other characters who happen to look like the actors/singers/whatevers, rather than writing them as "real" people in RPS? I dunno, but I'm willing to leave it at that. Folks should be able to read and write pretty much whatever they want, as long as I don't have to read it.

I would also suggest melethryn - I haven't been there for a while, but when I read it regularly, it seemed to be well-maintained. There's even a listserv for readers to subscribe to for updates. Good luck!

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earonn.livejournal.com
As you know I share your opinion about RPS for similar reasons.
Sorry to hear that Innoncence had to be removed.
Oh, and there is still Melethryn...
*laughs*
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
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