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Dead? On holidays? In that case, have a good time, guys. You've certainly deserved it. We all have, right?

If you're still out there, though - aside from [livejournal.com profile] altariel, whom I've already met in cyberspace since my return - wave me. I'm lonely here. It's like returning to an empty house. :(

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Date: 2007-08-07 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
*waves back*

Which fandom do you mean?

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Date: 2007-08-07 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archet.livejournal.com
All fandoms, really. It’s a long, odd story that began earlier this summer when a (group or individual), called ‘Warriors for Innocence’ who are apparently targeting pedophiles, reported a bunch of journals to LiveJourna/6Apart. As a result communities and journals were suspended, seemingly if there was anything listed in their LJ ‘interests’ that might point to incest, underage sex/abuse, even if they truly did not have anything to do with pedophilia. Even some groups devoted to survivors of abuse at the hands of pedophiles were suspended in the beginning, I hear. I actually deleted all of my interests on my LJ. Eventually it seemed things got relatively straightened out, and many journals were reinstated.

Meanwhile, many were questioning LiveJournal’s Terms of Service, and wanted to know just exactly what is, or is not, allowed to be posted in regards to fiction and fanart. Basically we all would like to know what will get our journal deleted, and what guidelines will be used to judge content. It seems LJ has since stated that . . . I don't have the direct quote, but something along the lines of . . . fic depicting individuals under the age of 18, I think it was, and engaging in sexual situations will not be permitted, and LJ followed this by saying ‘but Romeo and Juliet is ok’. More confusion resulted from that bizarre statement.

Recently, it seems at least one journal user has been permanently deleted because they posted a piece of Harry Potter fanart that was deemed by LJ to, not necessarily to be depicting a minor having sex or abuse, but because the fanart had no ‘artistic’ value . . . or some such. Also, apparently an LJ employee, [livejournal.com profile] burr86 has posted several comments mocking fandom/s to a (rpg?) community, though what has upset a lot of folks is not that he posted these comments to a RPG, but that he used the same LJ account that he uses to respond to correspond with LJ customers, and that denotes an extreme lack of professionalism.

As it is, I have no idea how this is all going to unfold. LJ seems incapable or unwilling to provide a clear Terms of Service that fandom can follow for posting content, and the journal mentioned above was deleted without prior notice to the user, and said user was not given a chance to remove the content they were reported for. Basically, if someone reports your journal, LJ will review your content, and using whatever these elusive guidelines of theirs are, will suspend/delete your journal, or let you know that you’re ‘ok’. This has left a lot of people uneasy, and some are leaving LJ altogether.

A lot has been posted on all this, and honestly, I’ve probably not gotten the details down correctly . . . here are a couple journals and links to other's who have a better handle on this than me, you might want to check out . . . . [livejournal.com profile] stewardess and [livejournal.com profile] caras_galadhon, and LJ's news section [livejournal.com profile] lj_biz

And also:
http://stewardess.livejournal.com/276649.html
http://liz-marcs.livejournal.com/283323.html

Arg! Sorry to reply with so much! It's such a mess, though, ;P




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Date: 2007-08-07 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
No prob. I was aware of the whole mess on the borderline, and the whole thing was a wee bit heavily handed from the side of LJ. I heard though that some of the deleted journals were restored afterwards.
the guidelines are really a bit blurry, which is why I friends-lock a lot of my fanfic. Otherwise, though, I just try not to be paranoid, as I can't change things anyway. In a manner it is similar to FF.Net.

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Date: 2007-08-07 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archet.livejournal.com
I'm afraid friends-locking journals may not be enough, though on the whole, I like to think that most of us will be ok...*shrugs* Who knows, with the constant swinging back and forth on so called 'policy' LJ's doing lately. Anyway, I can't even stay current with the LJ I have now, much less start moving my stuff over the Greatest Journal, or Insane Journal...and once over there we might have the same problems we have here. I don't know, guess we'll see what happens. :|

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Date: 2007-08-07 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
WEll, in the end, not even personal websites might be safe. I just wonder how people manage to keep the insane amounts of disgusting pr0n online. You can't google the most harmless stuff without getting led to one of these detestable sites.

Adultfanfiction.net went for security not so long ago, too. Now you need to sign up and have a password to get in. Since I don't find the mediocre smut posted there worth my while, I did not get one, but it shows clearly how things are, right?
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